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Jessica Fred's avatar

Thank you for sharing your experience! I understand how that rabbit hole can lead to nihilism.

I am a deep thinker and have been since childhood. It can feel like a gift and a curse at the same time.

I am familiar with and also use NVC practices. I feel that the principles of NVC can help deepen and clarify communication to get to deeper unresolved and unmet needs.

People seem so afraid of direct communication and vulnerability. I want to help people connect to themselves and others in healthy ways. I am definitely interested in containers that help teach and use principles of NVC.

Kimberly Skief's avatar

Thanks for your thoughtful response. I definitely relate to being a deep thinker and the curse and blessing. YES! I love that you use the NVC principles and have an interest in being a part of a group. Perhaps we can chat in a dm to sort out next steps? (I'm noticing substack isn't notifying me about replies).

Jessica Fred's avatar

Feel free to message me. I ended up replying twice to your comment 😜

Kimberly Skief's avatar

😅, will do!

Jo🍒's avatar

Thanks for writing this piece. It perfectly describes the infinite mental loops I’ve experienced since childhood 🥹 I tend towards avoidance, which creates enormous internal friction (physical and emotional) as a parent of young children. I’m very grateful for your content around coherance. Thank you for gently opening my eyes :)

Jessica Fred's avatar

Thank you for sharing this—I’m really glad it resonated.

Those loops can be tough, especially when they’ve been there for so long. And I hear how much you’re holding as a parent—that responsibility to create stability while also navigating your own internal patterns is no small thing.

I know how those patterns can carry forward too, and how overthinking and anxiety can feel genuinely debilitating at times.

That gentle awareness you mentioned is powerful. I’m glad something here helped open that up for you.

Kimberly Skief's avatar

Grateful is what I felt because I've been in this rabbit hole to the point of nihilism. I only recently stepped out of the thinking about thinking. Then I began to analyze how this relates to questions I've been asking just this morning and seeing the synchronicity. Then I analyzed a recent stressful event using your explanation of seeking certainty. I avoided my own feelings by seeking external answers to resolve the experience. As a result, when the crisis passed I was overwhelmed with sensations and at that point chose to experience it as tears.

I will save this note for integration later. I too am interested in opening a space for community support in processing. Are you familiar with the non violent communication model by Marshall Rosenburg? I'd like to use that as the container for creating awareness and allowing experience and building more strength within the nervous system. Please let me know if that sparks any interest.

Jessica Fred's avatar

I’m really glad this landed for you—and I know that rabbit hole well. It can get pretty stark when everything turns into thinking about thinking, especially when it starts drifting toward nihilism.

What you shared about the stressful event really stood out. That movement from seeking certainty externally to actually feeling what was there—and allowing it to move through as tears—that’s a powerful shift. Not always comfortable, but very real.

And yes, I’m very familiar with Marshall Rosenberg and the principles of Nonviolent Communication. I have a lot of respect for that work. It feels like such an essential piece that many people were never modeled—being able to clearly name feelings and needs without circling around them or suppressing them out of fear of vulnerability.

I see how often people are trying to communicate, but not actually saying what they feel or need, and it creates so much unnecessary disconnection.

I’m definitely interested in spaces that support that kind of awareness and relational depth. There’s something really powerful about having a container where people can both feel and express what’s real while staying connected.

I’d be open to hearing more about what you’re envisioning there.